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Feb. 14th, 2011 06:00 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I just spent Valentine's Day on Day One of the Toilet Survey. We visited six toilets, recorded five in detail (which is something of a record - five buildings in one day! Wow!!!) and joyfully crossed them off the 'To Do' list. To my chagrin, five out of the six were all different - I was hoping some would be duplicates so they wouldn't have to be recorded at all...
So I can now add a detailed understanding of changing 20th century sanitary wares to my already extensive palmares. We had original 1930s toilets, modified 1930s toilets, 1950s toilets, and 1970s toilets. And then there were the gender divisions: male toilets (with urinals) and female toilets (without). Trust me, girls (and boys, too, I suppose): having to make detailed sketches and measurements of a 1930s urinal is a seriously weird experience. Still, someone had to do it: I was oscillating between the geeky ceramics specialist (sticking my nose up close and saying 'ooh, what does that say?' as I tried to decipher the maker's mark) and squeamish girlie-girl (exclaiming, "eek! That's GROSS!!' as I finally realised that I was sticking my nose into a urinal). Ah, the joys... We have another two toilets to complete tomorrow (before returning to the more mundane topic of section stores and miscellaneous office) and then after that I suppose I'll be able to start compiling the Definitive Typology of Toilet Types. That's before we get onto the subject of handbasins, of which I identified five different types, All were faithfully recorded, with locations of soap recesses marked, and the cross-section of the basin drawn in detailed (one had a lip all the way round, one had a chamfered edge, one had a lip along either side edge, and the other two were just plain BORING). Yes, my job is this anal (pardon the unfortunate pun...) even when the material encountered is blatantly modern.
Last night, we watched the Simon Schama episode ' Burning Convictions', which was about Henry VIII, Edward and Mary. I realised then why I hate, I really hate, I really, really, really hate, Thomas Cromwell. It's all Simon Schama's fault - he's brainwashed me into detesting the man (but the historical episodes of vandalism and brutality he cites are pretty damning, I must admit). Hats off to Hilary Mantel: in Wolf Hall, she managed to create a character I found convincing as a person, and as a representation of Thomas Cromwell, and yet I didn't really detest him all that much, because everything he did seemed justified and reasonable. Now that's good writing for you!!
So I can now add a detailed understanding of changing 20th century sanitary wares to my already extensive palmares. We had original 1930s toilets, modified 1930s toilets, 1950s toilets, and 1970s toilets. And then there were the gender divisions: male toilets (with urinals) and female toilets (without). Trust me, girls (and boys, too, I suppose): having to make detailed sketches and measurements of a 1930s urinal is a seriously weird experience. Still, someone had to do it: I was oscillating between the geeky ceramics specialist (sticking my nose up close and saying 'ooh, what does that say?' as I tried to decipher the maker's mark) and squeamish girlie-girl (exclaiming, "eek! That's GROSS!!' as I finally realised that I was sticking my nose into a urinal). Ah, the joys... We have another two toilets to complete tomorrow (before returning to the more mundane topic of section stores and miscellaneous office) and then after that I suppose I'll be able to start compiling the Definitive Typology of Toilet Types. That's before we get onto the subject of handbasins, of which I identified five different types, All were faithfully recorded, with locations of soap recesses marked, and the cross-section of the basin drawn in detailed (one had a lip all the way round, one had a chamfered edge, one had a lip along either side edge, and the other two were just plain BORING). Yes, my job is this anal (pardon the unfortunate pun...) even when the material encountered is blatantly modern.
Last night, we watched the Simon Schama episode ' Burning Convictions', which was about Henry VIII, Edward and Mary. I realised then why I hate, I really hate, I really, really, really hate, Thomas Cromwell. It's all Simon Schama's fault - he's brainwashed me into detesting the man (but the historical episodes of vandalism and brutality he cites are pretty damning, I must admit). Hats off to Hilary Mantel: in Wolf Hall, she managed to create a character I found convincing as a person, and as a representation of Thomas Cromwell, and yet I didn't really detest him all that much, because everything he did seemed justified and reasonable. Now that's good writing for you!!
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Date: 2011-02-14 06:54 pm (UTC)When it comes to historical drama, I try to remind myself that it may be unfair to apply modern ethos and sensibilities of what's right/wrong to the actions of those historical figures. They were operating in their historical/political/social context, and so by their lights may not have been as bad as we view them with our current lens. (Sadly, I do not know enough about history to make a cogent argument about just how to view and/or excuse Cromwell or others for their actions based on their milieu. But I'm sure there's one to make by some expert out there!)
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Date: 2011-02-15 05:20 pm (UTC)I'm just mad that so many works of art and music were trashed by the Reformers. Bit like the Taleban blowing up those buddhas a few years back and having men sitting in Kabul Museum hammering all the artefacts into smithereens because they didn't fit in with their worldview.
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Date: 2011-02-15 06:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-14 08:31 pm (UTC)And I'm in agreement with you on Thomas Cromwell.
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Date: 2011-02-14 09:09 pm (UTC)it was our joy to go in and excavate
the porcelain and clean it and its environment
back to its showroom face.
the worse toiletries & sinks belonged to mechanics-
but the private executive black toilet ran a good 2nd in nastiness.
white might be hard to keep clean, but black is worse.
running hot water and chemistry
make a big difference.
think we need to shock the well or so we've been told
the rust is incredible!
we can't change the filters often enough
we must be sitting over a iron deposit!
Happy Valentines Day!
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Date: 2011-02-15 05:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-15 08:30 pm (UTC)hehe
its a inventory book only a plumber would love?
or Kohler Company"http://www.us.kohler.com/"
think they've got a museum of toiletry? or so the rumor goes
don't think you need the perspective
but better to count than clean all that !
&
its way better than inventorying out houses, how many time it's been moved..
how deep is the hole.. how many times do you think they burned it clean?
grandpa said instead of digging a hole some folks would move the house
then burn up the contents... big pillar of black smoke,
probably would hear about moses following the pillar of smoke that week in church..
they loved concrete examples back then.
wonder if krap mean excrement before john krapper invented his toilet,
or only afterwards!
as the Gastroenterologist
would say this project will soon pass..
then you can go on to bigger and better things like
light fixtures? hehe
<http://changeling72.livejournal.com/>
has pictures of dew drops at kew gardens
eye candy? to rest your eyes...
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Date: 2011-02-14 09:46 pm (UTC)I guess there must be evolutions in urinal design as in everything else!
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Date: 2011-02-15 07:13 am (UTC)As for the history of toilets, I have never thought to see how they have changed over the years. While I understand there had to be some advancements between "hole in the ground" and what we use today, I am not aware of those changes.
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Date: 2011-02-15 05:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-15 03:12 pm (UTC)That made me lol! I bet that's well down the list of suggested romantic Valentine's Day activities. :)
My familiarity with urinals is limited to having to clean them in the men's washrooms when we were Youth Hostel wardens. Not a fun job and the men's loos always smelled worse than the ladies'.
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Date: 2011-02-15 05:04 pm (UTC)I'd much rather sketch and photograph the things than clean them.